I would love to come provided my managers allow for it.

Can't take leave as I might be running low on them. So I would like it to be a training leave.

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Sincerely,

~ Salocin.TEN ~

Salocin.TEN:

There is this silly bug in this forum, uhm, Web application, should I say, in ASP dot net speak. I have been trying to reply to several posts, only to be met with a "You have been banned as of <today>. The reason is Other".

I always get the ban message too.

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Blog: http://serena-yeoh.blogspot.com

Zzz... you get into community becoz of passion or at least something you like to do or something u addicted.
so if you think you can add value here then hang around, if not, then move on other places. of coz I have to say MIND today - sux! LOL.. that's the fact, even Weng Ching might not like it, but just do a survey or poll to figure out. Nevertheless, I'm only interested in few tech areas, so I don't participate in what phone u use, intro yourself bla bla. I just read for FYI, if there's post that I'm interested, then I will reply. 

Anyway - come here as this is local initiative and you want to help out. that's it. if it doesn't work out, then move on. There are lot more forums that you should really get into like msdn, asp.net, iis.net. heck I even read forums.dota-allstars.com coz I'm on bnet every nite.

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Cheers,
Bernard Cheah

Bernard:

Zzz... you get into community becoz of passion or at least something you like to do or something u addicted.
so if you think you can add value here then hang around, if not, then move on other places. of coz I have to say MIND today - sux! LOL.. that's the fact, even Weng Ching might not like it, but just do a survey or poll to figure out. Nevertheless, I'm only interested in few tech areas, so I don't participate in what phone u use, intro yourself bla bla. I just read for FYI, if there's post that I'm interested, then I will reply. 

Anyway - come here as this is local initiative and you want to help out. that's it. if it doesn't work out, then move on. There are lot more forums that you should really get into like msdn, asp.net, iis.net. heck I even read forums.dota-allstars.com coz I'm on bnet every nite.

Point taken.  

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Sincerely,

~ Salocin.TEN ~

Bernard:

Zzz... you get into community becoz of passion or at least something you like to do or something u addicted.
so if you think you can add value here then hang around, if not, then move on other places. of coz I have to say MIND today - sux! LOL.. that's the fact, even Weng Ching might not like it, but just do a survey or poll to figure out. Nevertheless, I'm only interested in few tech areas, so I don't participate in what phone u use, intro yourself bla bla. I just read for FYI, if there's post that I'm interested, then I will reply. 

Anyway - come here as this is local initiative and you want to help out. that's it. if it doesn't work out, then move on. There are lot more forums that you should really get into like msdn, asp.net, iis.net. heck I even read forums.dota-allstars.com coz I'm on bnet every nite.

Thanks for sharing your view. In fact I am alright with that feedback. Thanks for contributing in MIND till now. I appreciate that. MSDN, ASP.NET are really good forums.

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Best Regards,

Chua Wen Ching
Software Engineer Mesiniaga Berhad
President of MIND Community
Head of Academics for INETA Malaysia (APAC region)
Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) - Visual Developer - Visual C#

"ello?!! "

"wu lang bo?  "

ka liau lang ki liau tak lok? 

why bo lang type mee kia eh? 

 

Hi,

Really sorry but I just could not understand what you wrote in here.

This is an English language only forum, and there are international guests who browse this regularly.

If there is a post in another language, neither they nor me can understand it too.

I hope this is understood. :P

Thank you.

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Sincerely,

~ Salocin.TEN ~

"ello?!! "

"wu lang bo?  "

ka liau lang ki liau tak lok? 

why bo lang type mee kia eh? 

 

=====translation by tongsan england school========= 

 

Hello?!!! 

Anyone here? 

Where's everyone gone? 

Why no one contributes ?

I'm sorry if my posting confuses you and many others (INTERNATIONAL guests - if you do exists please make yourself known) but just so you know this is MALAYSIAN Independent Developers Forum, some may argue it might bound for some localised content such this. 

To avoid any confrationand debate,  an English translated posting was made by the author. 

Many humble apologies to reader Salocin.NET and many others INTERNATIONAL guests. (again if you do exists, please make yourself known) - Please share your knowledge / experience / encounters / findings / thoughts / opinions/ white papers / black papers/  yellow papers / toilet papers.. anything and everything with us, the local developers who mainly prefer reading than typing. :o) 

 

PLEASEEEEEE HELP US!!!

[:'(] 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No worries.

As I am not a dot net developer yet (until I get into full swing with my new job), I am unsure if I should post development not related to dot net.

But I am willing to share, until the bosses at my new job put a stop to it.   

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Sincerely,

~ Salocin.TEN ~

Chill up guys :)

Well we are migrating (still in process). You can check out here

http://202.75.41.155/csMind/

Don't register at the site yet. I am trying to get the users migrated over.

We are leveraging on a new hosting provider - Emerge. Thanks to Emerge for sponsoring. We are also using CommunityServer 2008. Thanks to Telligent. The rack server is sponsored by FTec.

Will do a official announcement later. Thanks :)

One more thing, MIND is MIND. It is no longer called Malaysian Independent Developers. It is quite misleading though.

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Best Regards,

Chua Wen Ching
Software Engineer Mesiniaga Berhad
President of MIND Community
Head of Academics for INETA Malaysia (APAC region)
Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) - Visual Developer - Visual C#

wah.. new site very pretty... hmm.. not sure about the speed.. compare to this, but then again if it is free why complain? :P

Sorry about not knowing MIND IS NO MORE Malaysian Independent Developers.. then again this shoudn't be there http://mind.com.my/forums/76/ShowThread.aspx#76

so what is MIND now? [usually should have all sort of names here] but I'll leave it to CWC to enlight us this time.

 

-= mind the gap =- 

Hi, well it comes together as a default template of CommunityServer. Maybe will skin it later. IMHO, I am not sure MIND will use CS2008 for long. My original intention is to build MIND website from scratch. More like open source initiative type. I am not saying I am good, but members have every say on the architecture of the open source code. Still considering on this. But still need a place to dump bugs at early stage.

As for MIND, it is just MIND. We normally promote MIND than the full qualifed name. As for the link there, it is just temporary. The new site will be just MIND. There is a possibility of rebranding MIND logo too. MIND is under lots of transformation which will affect its vision, missions and objectives along the way. I had been working with industry partners in making MIND a great place. It will take some time to have all these puzzles in place to form a greater picture.

In the past, MIND strategy was more focus to sponsors who can support MIND community. That was really successful and had proven records. Even DotNetRocks admired that. But the MIND Team had failed to focus on the members base which was really lacking here. With lack of support from the team and weak foundation scattered around within the MIND Team, it was really hard to move on.

Thanks that all these issues were over. Citymouse and Salocin, thanks for being supportive to MIND till today. I have 2 C# T-Shirts from US for both of you. Got it from the Visual C# Team from Redmond. Email me at chuawenching@gmail.com on how I can pass you the T-Shirts?

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Best Regards,

Chua Wen Ching
Software Engineer Mesiniaga Berhad
President of MIND Community
Head of Academics for INETA Malaysia (APAC region)
Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) - Visual Developer - Visual C#

wah sounds like a nightmare up there for a user group that mainly just want to share some codes / techniques / tricks among the local like minders. Perhaps there are only few like minders out there who really really really really really have the real passion to do this despite the large number of software development professionals we have in this country. hmmm.. I'm not sure why?

Anyhow for those really few of us, I say let's make this platform work!! 

 

CWC:-

Thanks for the T-Shirt, perhaps we should just save it as the prize for the coming activity and should you need another idea contributors, drop me a line.

=Hokkien-Mouse

Thanks for your honest feedback. Not really a nightmare :)

I believe everyone has its own goals when come to community. So passion is really hard to measure :) There are boundaries in making a person to contribute.

One good case study to elaborate further...

I am seriously considering at (part of the MIND transformation) is selling/justifying the value proposition to an individual who works in a software vendor company (ISV, Consultancy, SI, support, etc) to join MIND. As you know each developer who participate in MIND community could be competitors. These developers would rather contribute internally in the company to succeed. There are some cases where their bosses are not happy for them to blog/contribute in forum. How I know? I had spoken to many developers who were MIND members and non MIND members. Plus I faced similar issues back then during my earlier jobs. It was de-motivating.

In order to unlock this mystery door, I need to find out the right mechanism to make it happen. It will take time but it is worth it :)

I respect your decision to keep the T-Shirt for later use in the coming activity :) Thanks. There will be an interesting session in November. I have a speaker from France coming down :)

In terms of ideas, thanks for volunteering. I will put on halt for that first. Let me refine the basic foundation which is the processes within MIND first. I don't really have a proper process for speakers and freebies inventory. Furthermore, I need to plan out a good platform for ideas contribution too. It is not really a technology thing :)

I can ensure you that during the transformation process (5 people including myself part of MIND Thinktank - people from various industry: Financial, Marketing, Sales, Management and Technology); we have listed down potential case studies and the solutions to each of  them. The transformation started on July 2008 and will end by November 2008. So 2009 will be an interesting year for MIND.

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Best Regards,

Chua Wen Ching
Software Engineer Mesiniaga Berhad
President of MIND Community
Head of Academics for INETA Malaysia (APAC region)
Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) - Visual Developer - Visual C#