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Last post 10-21-2008, 9:54 AM by chuawenching. 57 replies.
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  •  01-01-2008, 8:37 AM 2966 in reply to 2933

    Re: Where is everyone?!

    Well I personaly think the online forum is not the key to MIND community. So being quiet is not necessary that MIND is not active.

    By the way, since you raise this ... I will make sure you are invited in the MovieFest. More details will be released soon.

    I spoke to a few developers and everyone is excited about this coming Movie Fest. Happy New Year.


    Best Regards,

    Chua Wen Ching
    Software Engineer Mesiniaga Berhad
    President of MIND Community
    Head of Academics for INETA Malaysia (APAC region)
    Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) - Visual Developer - Visual C#
  •  01-02-2008, 2:55 PM 2968 in reply to 906

    Re: Where is everyone?!

    This is a test post.

    The reason this site has fallen silent, for me, is that whenever I try to write something, I can't put it up here as for some reason, I am immediately banned.

    So this is a test post.

    Firedancer and Wen Ching, since I have seen you both in person during the previous MIND gathering (November 2007), if you see this, I am successfully back on the forums.

    I should be coming back with some interesting points, inspired by Wen Ching to actually write / speak some stuff real soon.

    If I land that brand new Australian-Malaysian job as a C# ASP.NET programmer, I think I would be more fully assimilated in with you guys.
    The fact that they can do artificial intelligence by just using C# ASP.NET is something well worth looking into. Clue: iTalk Buddy uses their platform.

    The current job is like wow, so 1980s. Some of them do not agree with adopting new SDKs (for Java) or new platforms, but rather stick to COBOL and a lot of spaghetti JSP code.


    Sincerely,

    ~ Salocin.TEN ~
  •  01-02-2008, 11:00 PM 2971 in reply to 2968

    Re: Where is everyone?!

    Keep it up. I am sure you will be invited to this movie session based on your past participations in MIND gathering.
    Best Regards,

    Chua Wen Ching
    Software Engineer Mesiniaga Berhad
    President of MIND Community
    Head of Academics for INETA Malaysia (APAC region)
    Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) - Visual Developer - Visual C#
  •  01-08-2008, 8:24 AM 2983 in reply to 2966

    Re: Where is everyone?!

    Thanks for the invite unfortunately I'm not in the country during that time (which is a shame!!) I'd love to participate in Mind event but perhaps I'll have to leave it till next time. Well happy anniversary and enjoy the movie !!

    -Mouse out of the city

     

  •  01-08-2008, 9:23 AM 2984 in reply to 2983

    Re: Where is everyone?!

    Noted. Thanks for the update.


    Best Regards,

    Chua Wen Ching
    Software Engineer Mesiniaga Berhad
    President of MIND Community
    Head of Academics for INETA Malaysia (APAC region)
    Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) - Visual Developer - Visual C#
  •  01-08-2008, 10:29 AM 2985 in reply to 2933

    Re: Where is everyone?!

    citymouse:
    halo autie! apa pistol u pakai ?! bunyi DOOOH!??? Guna lar something like BFG9000

    The time for guns is over. It is now the time for ...


    Blog: http://serena-yeoh.blogspot.com
  •  01-08-2008, 10:40 AM 2986 in reply to 2931

    Re: Where is everyone?!

    citymouse:

    Ok it is me again!! A year has gone past.. this place is more ghost than ever! There are only two possibilites I can think of, either: -

    Hmmm.... I think the reason the forums is so quiet is because of:

    1. The older members have all grown up already. (Big Girls and Big Boys already). All have other priorities in life. If not mistaken, some got married and have kids. So the focus is no longer on work work work, pc pc pc. Have to focus on raising the kids, changing napkins, saving for their education etc etc. Some got into other job roles and hence require more attention on their career.

    2. The days of foruming is over where hundreds of forums mushroomed over the year. Most of the technical forums I've been to are now quiet due to more niche forums like MSDN forums and Channel9.

    3. Finally, it is already our Malaysian culture to not express our opinion in public in fear of getting flak.


    Blog: http://serena-yeoh.blogspot.com
  •  01-08-2008, 5:15 PM 2987 in reply to 2986

    Re: Where is everyone?!

    Heyy everyone! I am a new member here. Nice to meet you all.

    Some introduction anyone? Would appreciate it alot. ^^
     

  •  01-09-2008, 5:45 PM 2993 in reply to 2986

    Re: Where is everyone?!

    1. This site is more of becoming a news portal than developers info exchange. More often than not, looks like a place just only for MIND announcements, period.
    2. Surviving developers' forums are fueled by enthusiasts more than self proclaimed professionals.
    3. Malaysian culture is band wagon culture - just following the wow everyone is shouting and be the norm. Subject(s) understanding is close to nil, so is discussions.
    Any technology without common sense is useless.
  •  01-10-2008, 6:31 AM 2995 in reply to 2993

    Re: Where is everyone?!

    Not trying to be a political minded here.. but why keep banging on "Malaysian culture" ? Aren't you and me (ok maybe I bluff a little that I'm from Tongsan) are also categorised under this so call "Malaysian Culture" ... and surely we can do better than that - "slapping ourselves in the face"

    I say don't blame others but yourself for this is what it has become. Get your fat fingers out, give that keyboard a gentle rub (... ok no dirty minds pls), and punch your brain out here!!

    Knowledge is of two kinds. We know a subject ourselves, or we know where we can find information on it. - Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)

    "I am not like that lar" - mouse

  •  01-10-2008, 4:29 PM 2998 in reply to 2993

    Re: Where is everyone?!

    dstl1128:
    1. This site is more of becoming a news portal than developers info exchange. More often than not, looks like a place just only for MIND announcements, period.
    2. Surviving developers' forums are fueled by enthusiasts more than self proclaimed professionals.
    3. Malaysian culture is band wagon culture - just following the wow everyone is shouting and be the norm. Subject(s) understanding is close to nil, so is discussions.

    Missed out one more - 4. Becoming like a "jobstreet" where people advertise jobs.

     


    Blog: http://serena-yeoh.blogspot.com
  •  01-10-2008, 4:31 PM 2999 in reply to 2995

    Re: Where is everyone?!

    citymouse:

    Not trying to be a political minded here.. but why keep banging on "Malaysian culture" ? Aren't you and me (ok maybe I bluff a little that I'm from Tongsan) are also categorised under this so call "Malaysian Culture" ... and surely we can do better than that - "slapping ourselves in the face"

    I say don't blame others but yourself for this is what it has become. Get your fat fingers out, give that keyboard a gentle rub (... ok no dirty minds pls), and punch your brain out here!!

    Knowledge is of two kinds. We know a subject ourselves, or we know where we can find information on it. - Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)

    "I am not like that lar" - mouse

    But if you ask me now to type something, I also don't know what to type. If you noticed, my blog also slow down. My interest and enthusiasm just shifted to something else. Something I find I'm more happy in doing kua.


    Blog: http://serena-yeoh.blogspot.com
  •  01-11-2008, 10:26 AM 3004 in reply to 2995

    Well, yeah. Except...

    That's correct.

    People are just not bold to face any criticism here. They are afraid of being let down. The golden rule is not to claim yourself an expert until you are very very triply sure you are one.

    I have learnt a lot from my Masters education in Australia, that one needs to be very outspoken, provided he/she has a very firm grasp on the subject matter.

    However, I have a feeling that many people are willing to talk/write here. It is just that...

    1. They, as FireDancer mentioned, now have to take care of their new families. Meaning no time at all for other things. I do have some time because I have not contributed to the alarming population explosion yet.
    2. We have really freakishly long working hours and merciless managers/supervisors (who say that office hours are just a guideline???). That leaves like zero nanoseconds to do virtually anything else as we would be so dead tired by the time we end the day. For me, I need to spend time with parents. They are the ones who brought you this far, so one has to honour them.
    3. There is this silly bug in this forum, uhm, Web application, should I say, in ASP dot net speak. I have been trying to reply to several posts, only to be met with a "You have been banned as of <today>. The reason is Other".
    4. Okay, some others have also started their own companies and are working tonnes hard to establish it. I am getting on that path too as a nice hobby, and wow it is tough, especially with that silly business plan part. But I'm lovin' it (oh sorry Mackers). Big Smile
    5. Probably they were warned by their managements not to, like, participate in these communities for some odd unreasonable reason.

    I still recall the good ol' days of MIND back in 2002. When that Microsoft Tech Evangelist was part of the committee. I remembered the gatherings were almost always full house. Dot net was something huge then too. It seems to have revolutionized programming forever. The community message boards were great. Comparable to the Linux/open source ones I frequent.

    Now, it is a far cry from those days. I don't see much code help here anymore. My attention has also shifted to Web development using the existing CMS platforms out there. Also, those communities get you so involved. Ask a question, they help. One (Swiss guy) even went the mile to send me the amended file with something I needed, even though I said it was okay if I just copy and paste! He said "just FTP and overwrite". How nice!

    Up to now, I still have not the faintest idea what a "stored proc" is (ok, I know it is something to do with stored procedure, from my undergraduate PASCAL days). Neither "dot net remote-ing" too (it has something to do with XML and SOAP, but that's all I am aware of).


    Sincerely,

    ~ Salocin.TEN ~
  •  01-11-2008, 10:32 AM 3005 in reply to 2985

    Woohoo! Guitar Hero!

    No, well, I prefer Dance Dance Revolution. Keeps me trim and fit.

    I just need a dance pad. Probably poke around the two Low Yats for it. Probably use my laptop as a mobile dance machine.


    Sincerely,

    ~ Salocin.TEN ~
  •  01-11-2008, 10:43 AM 3006 in reply to 2987

    Welcome.

    Welcome to the MIND community.

    Unusual that you post here instead of the "New Members" forum (I think there is one).

    Alright. Some introduction... uhm, okay.

    I have been employed fulltime for almost three years.

    Uh, I have a Website www.salocinten.info

    Rotate it backwards for my real name. Clue: French President ________ Sarkosy. He, uh, just got his new girlfriend. They want to publish even that? Eww.

    I with a friend are making a company as a hobby.

    I love making Websites. 

    Hmm. Is that all you need to know? Oh. I'm hungry. Time to grab a drink from the tea lady. Woohoo! My boss is on leave today! Haha!


    Sincerely,

    ~ Salocin.TEN ~
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